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A historical perspective on the Old and New Testaments

Posted by: boltonian | December 6, 2007 | 16 Comments |

Summary of, ‘The Bible Unearthed,’ by Finkelstein and Silberman.

In this book the authors examine the Old Testament narrative in the light of the archaeological evidence, in particular the results of excavations and large scale surveys of the region carried out over the past 35 years, with reference also to contemporary non-biblical documentary sources (mainly Egytian, Assyrian and Babylonian). These data, together with textual analysis of the scriptures themselves and the references they contain, indicate when, how and in what cultural context the books of the Old Testament were compiled.

Their conclusions are as follows:

The timescales in the OT are wildly incorrect.

Some of the scriptures were probably based on orally transmitted myths and folk traditions predating the period of the two kingdoms.

The stories of the Patriarchs appear to have been based on such legends and hero tales. The most that can be said of them is that the archaeological evidence suggests circumstances in which they might have originated. For example, there seems to be a recurrent pattern in which some of the people of the region shifted back and forth from a nomadic and pastoral way of life in times of political stability and prosperity, to agricultural subsistence when things were more unsettled.

The captivity in Egypt did not occur as described, nor did the Exodus; and the details given in the account are anachronistic, but Semitic peoples from Canaan did periodically move into the region of the Nile Delta and settle there, the most notable instance being the immigration which led to the Hyksos establishing a ruling dynasty in Egypt c.1670 BCE (later accounts depict this as a violent invasion, but the archaeology suggests otherwise). The Hyksos were eventually defeated and driven back into Canaan.

There is no evidence for Joshua’s conquest of Canaan as depicted in the biblical account; in fact the Israelites were Canaanites. There was widespread destruction of Canaanite cities during the 13th century BCE, but this is more properly understood in the context of a general upheaval and political crisis throughout the eastern Mediterranean region.

There is, however, evidence to suggest that there was a common culture in Palestine, which might loosely be termed Israelite, from about 13th century BCE onward (there is, for example, an absence of pig bones in certain sites), but this cannot be seen as intrusive.

There was no united monarchy and the accounts of the ‘empire’ of David and Solomon have no historical basis. The north and south kingdoms were always separate and, of the two, the north kingdom (Israel) was the wealthier and more populous. If David and Solomon existed at all they were likely to have been local tribal chieftains from the hill country of Judah, ruling over very small populations. There is, nevertheless, some independent evidence that the rulers of Judah traced their descent from David, namely the inscription from Tel Dan, in which Hazael of Syria boasts of his defeat of Jehoram, king of the House of David c.835 BCE. The authors also note the correspondence between the tales of David as chief of an outlaw band and the 14th century BCE and Egyptian accounts of the Apiru as a class of brigands on the fringes of Canaanite society.

The first scriptures (The Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges and Kings) were compiled during the final days of the monarchy in Judah during the reign of Josiah (7th century BCE); incorporating records from both kingdoms, although there were further redactions and additions during and just after the Babylonian exile (6th century BC).

The monotheistic cult of YHWH only rose to prominence during this time – 7th and 6th centuries BCE.

Much of the motivation for the writings was to demonstrate the superiority of Judah and, in particular, its king Josiah.. The northern kingdom had already been destroyed by the Assyrians, which is the reason it gets a bad press in the OT – history is written by the victors, or at least the survivors. The authors stress what they see as the religious as well as political motives of Josiah – the wish to establish the cult of YHWH as the sole religion of the people of Judah.

Manasseh was a successful monarch presiding over a long period of peace for Judah (and not as depicted in the OT), whereas Josiah is more likely to have precipitated the events leading to the destruction of the kingdom through his overt ambition, which was seen as a threat to the Babylonian empire.

The Authors: Israel Finkelstein is director of the Sonia and Marco Nadler Institute of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University. Neil Asher Silberman is director of historical interpretation for the Ename Centre for Public Archaeology and Heritage Presentation in Belgium.

Summary of, ‘Who Wrote the Bible,’ by Richard Elliott Friedman.

There are four main sources for the OT books of the Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges, 1 and 2 Samuel and 1 and 2 Kings. There is also a redactor (R) who put them together.

The earliest two versions of the Torah (Pentateuch), except Deuteronomy and Leviticus were written at about the same time before (probably just before) the destruction of the northern kingdom in 722 BC. These are called J, where God is referred to throughout as YHWH (or Yahweh) and E, derived from His name, Elohim (which just means ‘God’ in ancient Hebrew). J was composed in Judah and E in the north. E was brought south after the fall of the northern kingdom by its custodians (probably Shilohite priests). These were from the Mushite (Moses) succession of priests.

Somebody in Judah (we don’t know who) combined them to produce a reasonably coherent narrative. The reason why both versions needed to be represented is because there were lots of refugees from the northern kingdom in Judah and if the southern account only had been proposed as the true version there might well have been trouble. This is why there are so many repetitions, inconsistencies and contradictions – two schools representing two different interests.

Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Samuel and Kings were written by one person mainly during the reign of Josiah in Judah (late 7th or early 6th century BC) but partly after its destruction by the Babylonians in 587 BC. That author was Jeremiah (with help from his scribe, Baruch), who fled to Egypt after the Babylonian invasion. He deliberately wrote from a Mushite perspective and emphasising Josiah as the Davidic successor and an example of a good king. This bit is accepted almost in its entirety by Finkelstein and Silberman

The fourth element is termed the priestly (P) source and was responsible for most of the Torah as we have it now, including all of Leviticus. It was written from an Aaronid (the line of Aaron) perspective and composed during the reign of Hezekiah (7th century BC) – Josiah’s grandfather.

There were two priestly traditions – those who traced their ancestry to Moses and those to Aaron – and both of their writings were combined to produce what we now know as the Torah and histories by a redactor. This redactor was Ezra and it was all put together by him after the building of the second temple following the release of the Jews from their Babylonian exile. He was an Aaronid priest.

Friedman takes as read that the Egyptian captivity happened and that Moses and Aaron were real people. He also seems to believe that David and Solomon reigned over a united kingdom. He does not go so far as to suggest that the Patriarchs existed. His brief is not an archaeological history of the Bible lands but a textual critique of certain bits of the OT.

Summary of Bart Ehrman’s ‘Misquoting Jesus.’

Ehrman is an expert on New Testament biblical textual analysis and chairs the department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina. His personal spiritual journey is interesting. He grew up an average church-going child whose parents were religious but more by custom than conviction. In his later teens he joined a group who took the bible literally as the perfect and unadulterated word of God. Gradually, through his theological studies at university, he began to have doubts. These doubts grew as he detected more and more inconsistencies and contradictions. It was then that his interest in textual criticism really took flight as he tried to understand what the underlying message might be and how these variations arose. He is now agnostic.

The earliest fragment we have of anything from the New Testament is dated early second century AD and anything more substantial dates from the third century onwards.

There have been a huge number of alterations over the years for a number of reasons:

- Copyist error (the most common cause);
- Correcting what was thought to be an earlier error;
- Deliberate manipulation of the text to suit the scribe’s views; and
- Organised changes to make the document conform to the theological views of the group commissioning the copy.

Errors of the first kind were more prevalent during the early years before the advent of professional scribes. Most of the copies then were written by barely literate Christians, literate slaves and/or by dictation.

All scribes were prone to amending text to say what they thought the document should have said.

As most scribes were Christian many were tempted to alter text to suit their own views and prejudices, and to conform to the mores of their own era.

The last form of textual corruption was a consequence of the power struggle between various sects and doctrines. As the victors write the history, what we are left with is the proto-orthodox version.

Ehrman details various techniques used to sort the sheep from the goats and attempts to reconstruct what the original authors might have written.

He also points out that the earliest extant texts are not necessarily the most reliable and that most English translations, including the King James, are not to be relied upon. The best, in his view, is the NRSV – but it is still no substitute for reading the original Greek.

What we are left with are copies of copies of copies of copies etc, each with their myriad errors, compounding one on the other; and then poor translations of these.

Most of the errors are trivial but some are of fundamental importance to Christian beliefs. He cites many examples:

- The last 14 verses of Mark are later additions;
- The woman taken in adultery in John was added later;
- The only reference to the Trinity is fake; and
- Many of Paul’s letters were amended to reduce the importance and role of women in the early church.

He does not, however, try to identify the historical character of Jesus, who provided the inspiration for the letters of Paul and the Gospels. His email response to the question, ‘Why not?’ was that he was concerned solely with establishing the likely authenticity of the text and not the historical events that the NT depicts. He agreed, however, with our view that Geza Vermes is an expert on the subject who is well worth reading.

Elephantschild and Boltonian

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Thanks for this E & B – a timely reminder of some of the issues involved in interpretation bearing in mind the recent Eagleton thread. It seems to me that one of the problems we have is imposing twentieth/ twenty first century standards on first century sources. Putting words into the mouth of Jesus might seem a very dubious practice to us but not to the Christian communities at that time. In one sense I find myself in a strange agreement with WML – the gospels are more theology than history. One NT scholar Denis Nineham (author of the excellent Pelican commentary on Mark’s gospel) refers to the gospels as having been written ‘from faith to faith’. Where I think I would part company with WML is that as far as I can see he then goes on to deduce that they are of little if any historical significance and jumps to the conclusion that therefore Jesus probably did not exist and that it belief in his existence is evidence of some kind of religious brain rot.

Gordy:

Thanks for this.

My position on the Gospels (E might not concur) is that they were really about the formation and development of the early church rather than an historical account. Writing history for the purposes of reflecting accurately what happened is a relatively recent phenomenon.

Having said that, it is unlikely, in my view, that the person on whom they were based is entirely fictitious. I also think that it is possible to work out, through rigorous forensic analysis, some of the more likely scenarios. We can hazard a pretty good educated guess at the nature of such a person (it might be a composite of two or more characters).

Where I part company with WML, apart from his attitude in general, is that he demands certainty as a precondition of accepting Jesus as a historical character. Proof, rather than the balance of evidence. I think this holds true about him generally but it is writ large here because of his visceral hatred of Christianity (partly driven by his former allegiance I suppose).

My position is that we should examine all the evidence and balance the probabilities. Of course this means that, say, you and I can examine the same evidence and reach different conclusions. So be it.

Yes I agree entirely with the points raised concerning attitude and the demand for certain proof which he is confident will not be forthcoming.

I take your point also about balancing probabilities. The Jesus denier is, it seems to me, essentially a conspiracy theorist who claims that stories were concocted by half a dozen sources or so concerning a figure who never existed in the first place who was brought up in a town that did not exist at the time. As soon as different sources are introduced – as surely they must – you have a conspiracy. What is never adequately explained is why stories should be attributed to a person who did not exist as opposed to a person who did exist – nor is a decent motive ever established for the invention of such a figure.

One of my history tutors once made a remark to the effect that in order to understand early medieval history one had to try to think oneself into the medieval mind. He was talking about Europe in the time of Charlemagne, but the same principle surely applies even more when trying to understand the Old and New Testaments.
The writers of the Gospels may have been semi-literate in the sense that they wrote bad Greek, but it does not follow that their thinking was simplistic, and they tended to express their ideas in allegory and Old Testament imagery. This is what WML and those of like mind seem unable to grasp; and the same applies, of course, to the biblical literalists.

The core of the narratives in the Gospels is presumed to have been a body of sayings and stories about Jesus which had been transmitted orally or in lost writings (the hypothetical Q source), and it seems perverse to suppose that because these sayings and stories were reshaped for theological purposes and may have been further distorted by later redactors they did not relate to a real, historical person. It is not as if any great period of time had elapsed when the earliest sections of the New Testament were written (which is where WML’s analogy with King Arthur or Hercules falls down).

The early Jewish Christians looked to the Torah and reinterpreted the whole of it as foreshadowing Christ, who is seen as its fulfilment. It was this belief which informed the structure of the Gospel narratives with their explicit and implicit references, of which many of the original readers would have been well aware. The understanding of the gentile converts who eventually came to dominate the movement would, on the other hand, have been coloured by myths with which they were more familiar, which introduced another layer of interpretation (Vermes notes, for example, that the term ‘Son of God’ as used by Jewish writers did not have the literal sense which it later acquired). Those who think that the whole story was a fabrication cobbled together out of elements such as the myths of Osiris or Mithras fail to take this into account (given that the Jesus movement was originally a Jewish sect based in Jerusalem it is, in any case, highly unlikely).

Elephantschild

Yes. What’s true for the middle ages applies just as well to the first century. The redactors show a degree of sophistication that belies their mastery of Greek. (WML at one point seemed to think that because they were are written in Greek the authors were native Greek speakers.) Mark is a very good example. Forgive the quotation but I think it illustrates the point well. A simple reading of the following stories from ch 8 would see a far fetched sounding miracle followed by fetched claims made about Jesus…

“The Healing of a Blind Man at Bethsaida
22 They came to Bethsaida, and some people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
23 He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the village. When he had spat on the man’s eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, Do you see anything?

24 He looked up and said, I see people; they look like trees walking around.

25 Once more Jesus put his hands on the man’s eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly.

26 Jesus sent him home, saying, Don’t go into the village.

Peter’s Confession of Christ
27 Jesus and his disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi. On the way he asked them, Who do people say I am?
28 They replied, Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.

29 But what about you? he asked. Who do you say I am? Peter answered, You are the Christ.

30 Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about him.

Jesus Predicts His Death
31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.
32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.

33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. Get behind me, Satan! he said. You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.

34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

35 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it”

These two stories can only be fully understood in relation to each other. Jesus opens up the eyes of his followers only gradually. Peter for example perceives that Jesus is the Christ but fails to see that this will involve suffering and death just as the blind man’s sight was only revealed to him in stages – ‘ I see men they look like trees…’

This does not mean to say that the incident did not happen but to emphasise that its significance lies in identifying Jesus as the suffering Messiah. Whatever one thinks of this claim it is a sophisticated piece of work by the redactor. Likewise the recent discussions over the ethics of Jesus cleansing the temple and the story of the fig tree appeared to overlook the fact the cleansing of the temple is ,in Mark’s gospel, surrounded by the story of the fig tree which is inspected by Jesus found not to be up to scratch condemned and destroyed. Likewise the temple, which was inspected by Jesus and condemned by him – just as it had been by the prophet Jeremiah – Jesus’ words come directly from Jeremiah and Isaiah at this point – condemned and destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. The point of the episode appears to be reflecting on this destruction( perhaps especially by asking the question how could God allow the destruction of his temple?) in the light of Jesus’ ministry and the prophetic tradition.

These examples show that the early Christian community felt quite happy to put words into Jesus’ mouth and to construct narratives in the light of subsequent events and so it becomes virtually impossible to say with certainty what Jesus actually said. On the other hand to claim that this shows ‘the whole thing’ was made up and that the Jesus character was conjured up out of thin air raises more problems than it solves.

There are clearly two extreme views that do not stand up to much scrutiny. The NT gives us the precise literal truth of the Jesus character and the NT is a work of deception concerning a character who did not exist.

gordy:

That is a very thorough analysis and pretty well spot on for me.

There are some real problems that get in the way of serious historical research. The first, which has been with us for nearly 2,000 years is the faith issue and the adherence of Christians to a literal interpretation. The second is the lack of understanding of the mind of the early Christians. Finally, we now have the converse of the first problem – anti-Christians who take any opportunity to denigrate its doctrines.

The Gospel writers wrote very much of their work as allegory or metaphor. Partly, I suspect, through fear of persecution but also because this is how information was passed in a largely pre-literate society. It is how culture was preserved and cascaded down the generations. We live in a prosaic age and have lost the ability to express ourselves through poetic myth. We no longer have the need because we can just look things up as we wish; there is no need to remember vast stores of information.

You are right that the NT is rooted in the OT scriptures; a point that is often forgotten by Christians as well as their critics. Vermes is very strong on this point and his ‘Authentic Gospel of Jesus,’ demonstrates quite clearly how the Gospel writers really saw themselves as continuing an already exiting tradition. The one difference, of course, is that they regarded Jesus as the Messiah (not Son of God, which is a contradiction).

The break with mainstream Judaism might have come about simply because most Jews could not accept gentiles who were not circumcised, whereas Paul saw expanding the faith to non-Jews as the only way forward. Conservatives versus radical populists – a common theme through the ages. Burke, I suspect, would have been on the side of Cephas/Peter.

All of this is intriguing (two additional relevant authors: Spong and Eisenman), yet I wouldn’t underestimate the importance, as well, of the history of myth, symbolism, and mysticism, and its realities today, as some would place this at the core of this entire subject.

What is transcendence, what is gnosis? What connections can be found between it and religion, and even arcane areas of physics?

To what extent must an inquirer indulge, directly, in the waters of the subconscious, the “subliminal self” to begin to appreciate this area?

Regards

Bill

Gordy
Good examples.

As regards the passages relating to the destruction of the temple, I don’t recall anyone on the Eagleton thread commenting on the significant fact that Gospels were written after the event (in the case of Mark, very soon after). For Jewish Christians the loss of the temple, the focus of Jewish religious observance, would have been in many ways as shattering in its implications as it was to other Jews, and Karen Armstrong, in her recent book on the Bible sees the burst of literary effort represented by the work of the evangelists and others as in part a response to the trauma. The Christians came to see the destruction of the temple as a symbol of the ending of the old order, so naturally there would be reference to it in the Gospels. It marks, also, the point at which Christianity began to diverge irrrevocably from mainstream Judaism.

In contrast, the response of the Jewish Rabbis, following the crushing of the Bar Koseba rebellion in 135 CE and the realisation that there was no forseeable possibility of the temple being rebuilt, was to create a kind of virtual temple in writing, first in the Mishnah, and eventually in the Talmud.

You should have presented a more balanced review of Finkelstein. His “minimalist” view was discredited long ago.

Hi Casual Comment:

You are very welcome.

We tried to make it clear that this was a summary of that particular book, rather than the last word on the subject.

Could you please enlarge on why Finkelstein’s approach has been discredited and by whom?

All historians are selective with the available evidence to a degree, which is why it is important to read more than one account and come to one’s own conclusions.

Most history I have read on the events described in the OT come at it from an already prejudiced viewpoint, either Christian or Jewish. Some take it as read that these events occurred as described and then go looking for supporting evidence, which inevitably leads to a partial analysis. It was rather refreshing for me to read an account from a more neutral perspective.

hello people may i join in,,i have not fully digested the thread so far but i see at the beginning that there is discussion of the reality of a jesus figure,,for a long time
i accepted as likely that there was some
figure that was responsible for the stories
but probably poorly represented historically
but eventually i came across something that really made me wonder,,so i share it with you,,the apochrypha,,the wisdom of jesus of sirach,i have had much fun reading this document and deciding when one voice stops and another starts and mulling over the likely age and background of the writers and the origins of the document,,eventually i labeled the book (for myself) “the apostolic handbook of the mission at syracruse” some of the text
reads as if its pretty directly from paul,,(not much),,the one thing this
collection of voices does NOT mention is
jesus,and there is only one reference to “the son”,,,now thats a puzzle nest pas ? or is there stuff i dont yet know ?

whats the concensus on isaiah,that seems to change time and place and voice several times 5,6,36,,43 45,53
44:12-17 seem to connect to sirach

i have not read any authors on this subject but i have deconstructed the skeletons of the OT and NT for myself
and also the koran and the book of mormon,,(hahahahah),i have a much different and positive view of the koran than either the headlines or the jihadists

dib

Isaiah: The general consensus among biblical scholars is that the Book of Isaiah is largely the work of at least two, and probably three people. The first Isaiah was a visionary and prophet living in Jerusalem towards the end of the 8th century BCE (a prophet being someone who was believed to have been charged by God with a particular message or task to perform). The section ascribed to him comprises chapters 1-39. Second Isaiah was writing after after 586 BCE, during the period of the Babylonian exile, but chapters 56 onward appear to have been written following the return from exile, so were presumably added at a later date.

I haven’t read the Wisdom of Jesus, but if I have identified it correctly it is one of the Gnostic texts, which are not really concerned with the historical Jesus at all. Gnosticism, which took a variety of forms and incorporated religious and philosophical ideas from a variety of sources, seems to have emerged originally in Syria in the second century CE. What the Gnostics had in common was a claim to some form of special, secret knowledge (gnosis means ‘knowledge’) and they developed some elaborate mythologies which had little to do with mainstream Christianity. Needless to say, they were denounced as heretics by the early Church fathers!

Does that help?

thanks for the words elephantschild,,
i am a peasant with an interest so i feel
pretty chuffed to have got isaiah sussed
out on my own,,the wisdom of jesus does
not sound at all gnostic to me,,very common sense a lot of it,,and very readable as instructions to would be street prostletysers spreading the word,,
interesting bunch of characters too, if i got it as close as isaiah,,i have a lot more figured out too,,i think

thanks again

dib

WRT The Wisdom of Jesus of Sirach, you are right, of course; it is not a gnostic text. I had recently come across a reference to a Wisdom of Jesus which is one of the gnostic texts found at Nag Hammadi, and confused the two.

Having since checked, I find that I knew of the Wisdom of Jesus of Sirach under the more familiar name of Ecclesiasticus, dating from the 2nd century BCE. The author, Yeshua ben Sirah, was a Jew from Jerusalem who wrote in the Wisdom tradition of Old Testament writing (e.g. Proverbs). It was widely read in early Christian circles, although in the end it didn’t make it into the canon.

The author, Yeshua ben Sirah, was a Jew from Jerusalem who wrote in the Wisdom tradition of Old Testament writing (e.g. Proverbs). It was widely read in early Christian circles, although in the end it didn’t make it into the canon.
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hi ,,didnt see this post till today as i search hopelessly for the thread for the koran post,,where is it ?

Yeshua ben Sirah may have been one of the authors but there is for sure many different voices ,,some times the change in voice coincides with a new chapter some times not,,also is it possible that
“Yeshua ben Sirah” is an adopted name,,
or a mistranslation of the mission name ?
the interpretation of the document as a
“hand book for newbies” is very er um ah
easy to cling onto !and there was a mission at syracuse,,visited by paul (i think),,almost every chapter has a reference to city life,,there is much reference to getting along with the authorities,,

). It was widely read in early Christian circles, although in the end it didn’t make it into the canon.

probably it was too christian,,would not support some of the more self interested and dogmatic positions of the establishment,,
anyway enough for now,,i leave you now with a verse from the wisdom chapter8
verse 3,,dedicated to some of the cif
stalwarts,,such as WML (religion) Avihu(israel/palestine) and Halgeel84 (who knows)
sir8,,3
Strive not with a man that is full of tongue
and heap wood not upon his fire

dib:

I have taken your quote to heart – I rarely even visit CiF these days, so I give myself few opportunities to strive with the tongue-filled one or heap wood upon his fire.

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