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An extract from Michio Kaku on the science behind UFOs and time travel

Posted by: boltonian | March 23, 2008 | 16 Comments |

In 1600, the former Dominican monk and philosopher Giordano Bruno was burnt alive in the streets of Rome. To humiliate him, the Church first hung him upside down and stripped him naked. What made the teachings of Bruno so dangerous? He had asked a simple question: is there life in outer space? Rather than entertain the possibility of billions of saints, popes, churches, and Jesus Christs in outer space, it was more convenient for the Church simply to burn him.

For 400 years the memory of Bruno has haunted the historians of science. But Bruno has his revenge every few weeks: about twice a month a new extrasolar planet is discovered orbiting a star: more than 250 such planets have now been documented. Bruno’s prediction of extrasolar planets has been vindicated. But one question lingers. Although the Milky Way may be teaming with extrasolar planets, how many of them can support life? And if intelligent life does exist, what can science say about it?

Some people claim that extraterrestrials have already visited Earth in the form of UFOs. Scientists usually dismiss the possibility of UFOs because the distances between stars are so vast. But last year the French government released a report by the French National Centre for Space Studies, which included 1,600 UFO sightings spanning 50 years, including 100,000 pages of eyewitness accounts, films and audiotapes. The French government stated that nine per cent of these sightings could be fully explained, that 33 per cent had likely explanations, but that it was unable to follow up on the rest.

The most credible cases of UFOs involve a) multiple sightings by independent, credible eyewitnesses and b) evidence from multiple sources, such as eyesight and radar. For example, in 1986 there was a sighting of a UFO by JAL flight 1628 over Alaska, which was investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration. The UFO was seen by the passengers of the JAL flight and was also tracked by ground radar. Similarly, there were mass radar sightings of black triangles over Belgium in 1989-90 that were tracked by Nato radar and jet interceptors. In 1976, there was a sighting over Tehran, that resulted in multiple systems failures in an F-4 jet interceptor. But what is frustrating to scientists is that, of the thousands of recorded sightings, none has produced hard physical evidence that can lead to reproducible results in the laboratory. No alien DNA, alien computer chip or physical evidence of a landing has ever been retrieved.

We might ask ourselves what kind of spacecraft they would be. Here are some of the characteristics that have been recorded by observers.

a) They are known to zig-zag in midair;

b) They have been known to stop car ignitions and disrupt electrical power;

c) They hover silently.

None of these characteristics fits the description of the rockets we have developed on Earth. For example, all known rockets depend on Newton’s third law of motion (for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction); yet the UFOs cited do not seem to have any exhaust. And the g-forces created by zig-zagging flying saucers would exceed 100 times the gravitational force on Earth – the g-forces would be enough to flatten any creature on Earth.

Can such UFO characteristics be explained using modern science? In movies it is always assumed that alien beings pilot these craft. More likely, however, if such craft exist, they are unmanned (or are manned by a being that is part organic and part mechanical). This would explain how the craft could execute patterns generating g-forces that would normally crush a living being.

Any alien civilisation advanced enough to send starships throughout the universe has certainly mastered nanotechnology. This would mean that their starships do not have to be very large; they could be sent by the millions to explore inhabited planets. Desolate moons would perhaps be the best bases for such nanoships. If so, then perhaps our own moon has been visited in the past by a civilisation similar to the scenario depicted in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is perhaps the most realistic depiction of an encounter with an extraterrestrial civilisation.

Some scientists have scoffed at UFOs because they don’t fit any of the gigantic propulsion designs being considered by engineers today, such as ramjet fusion engines, huge laser-powered sails and nuclear pulsed engines, which might be miles across. But UFOs can be as small as a jet aeroplane, and can refuel from a nearby moon base. So sightings may correspond to unmanned reconnaissance ships.

Time is one of the great mysteries of the universe. We are all swept up in the river of time against our will. Around AD400, Saint Augustine wrote extensively about the paradoxical nature of time: ‘How can the past and future be, when the past no longer is, and the future is not yet? As for the present, if it were always present and never moved on to become the past, it would not be time, but eternity.’ If we take Saint Augustine’s logic further, we see that time is not possible, since the past is gone, the future does not exist, and the present exists only for an instant.

In 1990, Stephen Hawking read papers of his colleagues proposing their version of a time machine, and he was sceptical. His intuition told him that time travel was not possible because there were no tourists from the future. If time travel were as common as taking a Sunday picnic in the park, then time travellers from the future should be pestering us with their cameras. There ought to be a law, he proclaimed, making time travel impossible. He proposed a ‘Chronology Protection Conjecture’ to ban time travel from the laws of physics in order to ‘make history safe for historians’.

The embarrassing thing, however, was that no matter how hard physicists tried, they could not find a law to prevent time travel. Apparently, time travel seems to be consistent with the known laws of physics. Unable to find any physical law that makes time travel impossible, Hawking recently changed his mind. He made headlines when he said, ‘Time travel may be possible, but it is not practical.’

Time travel to the future is possible and has been experimentally verified millions of times. If an astronaut were to travel near the speed of light, it might take him, say, one minute to reach the nearest stars. Four years would have elapsed on Earth, but for him only one minute would have passed, because time would have slowed down inside the rocket ship. Hence he would have travelled four years into the future, as experienced here on Earth. (Our astronauts actually take a short trip into the future every time they go into outer space. As they travel at 18,000 miles per hour above the Earth, their clocks beat a tiny bit slower than clocks on Earth. The world record for travelling into the future is held by the Russian cosmonaut Sergei Avdeyev, who orbited for 748 days and was hence hurled .02 seconds into the future.) So a time machine that can take us into the future is consistent with Einstein’s special theory of relativity. But what about going backwards in time?

If we could journey back into the past, history would be impossible to write. As soon as a historian recorded the history of the past, someone could go back into the past and rewrite it. Not only would time machines put historians out of business, but they would enable us to alter the course of time at will. If, for example, we were to go back to the era of the dinosaurs and accidentally step on a mammal that happened to be our ancestor, perhaps we would accidentally wipe out the entire human race. History would become an unending, madcap Monty Python episode, as tourists from the future trampled over historic events while trying to get the best camera angle.

But perhaps the thorniest problems are the logical paradoxes raised by time travel. For example, what happens if we kill our parents before we are born? This is a logical impossibility. It is sometimes called the ‘grandfather paradox’.

There are three ways to resolve these paradoxes. First, perhaps you simply repeat past history when you go back in time, therefore fulfilling the past. In this case, you have no free will. You are forced to complete the past as it was written. Thus, if you go back into the past to give the secret of time travel to your younger self, then it was meant to happen that way. The secret of time travel came from the future. It was destiny. (But this does not tell us where the original idea came from.)

Second, you have free will, so you can change the past, but within limits. Your free will is not allowed to create a time paradox. Whenever you try to kill your parents before you are born, a mysterious force prevents you from pulling the trigger. This position has been advocated by the Russian physicist Igor Novikov. He argues that there is a law preventing us from walking on the ceiling, although we might want to. Hence, there might be a law preventing us from killing our parents before we are born.

Third, the universe splits into two. On one timeline the people whom you killed look just like your parents, but they are different, because you are now in a parallel universe. This latter possibility seems to be the one consistent with the quantum theory.

The film Back to the Future explored the third possibility. Doc Emmett Brown (Christopher Lloyd) invents a plutonium-fired DeLorean car, which is actually a time-machine for travelling to the past. Marty McFly (Michael J. Fox) enters the machine and goes back and meets his teenage mother, who then falls in love with him. This poses a sticky problem. If Marty’s teenage mother spurns his future father, then they never would have married, and he would never have been born.

The problem is clarified a bit by Doc Brown. He goes to the blackboard and draws a horizontal line, representing the timeline of our universe. Then he draws a second line, which branches off the first line, representing a parallel universe that opens up when you change the past. Thus, whenever we go back into the river of time, the river forks into two, and one timeline becomes two timelines, or what is called the ‘many worlds’ approach.

This means that all time-travel paradoxes can be solved. If you have killed your parents before you were born, it simply means you have killed some people who are genetically identical to your parents, with the same memories and personalities, but they are not your true parents.

 

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Boltonian:

Fascinating stuff. Thanks a lot for provoking so many thoughts. Interesting how so many ‘recurring themes’ (history, free will, physics) should all crop up in a discussion on UFOs. I’ was wondering if rugby was going to make an appearance…

One of my favourite time travel stories, though for the life of me I can’t remember details like author and title, is the one about the person who decides to visit Golgotha for the crucifixion only for it to dawn on him whilst he is there that actually there aren’t ANY (geotemporal) locals in the crowd, the whole of the crowd is time travellers visiting the crucifixion!

Gordy:

In one parallel universe England won the world cup and thrashed Wales in the six nations.

I still don’t understand how time-travel into the future might be possible, but not precognition.

I’m also struggling with time slowing down almost to a stop at sub-FTL speeds. A minute to travel > 4 light years. This suggests to my warped mind infinite and timeless light.

I’ve never experienced what Biskie described as a precognitive dream. Without knowing everything she knows, it’s not possible to determine if there might be a more probable explanation. I’ve had one dream, which I consider possibly clairvoyant. I’ve had 2 seeming clairvoyant contacts in a single night, which involved a state of consciousness never experienced before or since. Case 1 was the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Case 2 was Chernobyl.

I’ve had one experience that I thought was going to be a UFO sighting. I was watching snow gently falling from the bedroom window late at night when I became aware of a flashing blue light in the sky. Then that light seemed to alter position too fast to be a terrestrial craft. I had an overwhelming desire to know what it was. I was prepared for an alien landing. What actually happened was that ball lightning landed just below me in the garden. It had a diameter of 2-3 feet and a there was a more intense spark of light, like the filament in a lightbulb, which described a spluttering anti-clockwise circle on the ground. It dissipated suddenly after less than a minute (?). In hindsight, I suppose I should have at least considered the possibility that the blue light was lightning, but I’d never seen or heard of this type of lightning and everything happened too quickly.

Yes, I know : anthropic principle, synchronicity.

Chernobyl was terrifying; for a while I thought the world was going to end. The ball lightning was inspiring; for a while I thought the world would never end.

Any way, I very much like Michio Kaku, he’s an inspirational presenter and I’ll read this book.

“The world record for travelling into the future is held by the Russian cosmonaut Sergei Avdeyev, who orbited for 748 days and was hence hurled .02 seconds into the future.”

The Science and Mathematics of this statement can be explained, but is it possible to explain the meaning of this statement in reality?

What would it mean to meet Sergei Avdeyev? Would we be able to see into the future or would we be meeting a younger version of Sergei Avdeyev?

I suspect that a non relativistic concept of time is inherent in how it is possible to think (’hard wired’ into our thinking).

I am not sure whether time travel is logically impossible: is there a distinction between time travel across space and time travel in local space?

The trouble with this discussion is that I am reminded of a philosopher who was reputed to have denounced the concept of General Relativity that space is curved by saying that there is nothing for space to be curved in (i have not been able to track down this anecdote). The trouble is that this claim draws more attention to the limitations of Philosophy than to the limitations of Science.

Martin:

I like the anecdote in your final para. The last sentence is maybe a reference to the limits of the human mind; science, after all, is merely a process or method devised by us for our own purposes.

I cannot see any scientific reason why time (if it exists) should move in only one direction. The more I think about it the more I am convinced that time is a product of the mind.

BTW, you might have seen in our chatroom of the inaugural meeting of the blog (I have also advised you by email). I hope you can make it.

As a teasing question I have sometimes postulated that time actually runs backwards. This means that we have no accurate memory, everything that has happened (what we call the future) is wiped from the memory, but we do have remarkable foresight of what is to take place (which we call the past).

The question is whether it would be possible to disprove this topsy turvy construction?

JB Priestley was greatly influenced by the writings of JW Dunne, who suggested that the linear nature of time is an illusion produced by how we think.

According to Dunne, past, present and future are only apprehended in sequence, because that is how mental perception works. He puts forward an alternative position in which past, present and future are simultaneous.

I think (I have not read his writings directly) Dunne compared time to a book. The pages can only be read one at a time, usually sequentially, but not necessarily, however the book is present in a sort of omni-time. He was interested in dreams: he said that dreams are not restricted by the sequential nature of time.

This idea was certainly useful to Priestley, whose ‘An Inspector Calls’ and ‘Time and the Conways’ are fruitful products.

TS Eliot in the Four Quartets:

Time present and time past
Are both perhaps present in time future
And time future contained in time past.
If all time is eternally present
All time is unredeemable. (Burnt Norton)

Some versions of Determinism (particularly religious D) would seem to agree with this kind of concept.

For myself it is the limitations upon how we can conceptualise that is the most interesting aspect. I really do think that Philosophy is ultimately subservient to an analysis and understanding of how we can and do think (part of Neuroscience). I realise that there is a circularity here, but any approach that states that Philosophy or Epistemology must sort out what and how we can have knowledge is much more of a dead end.

Martin:

I am intrigued by your suggestion of time actually running in the reverse direction to our perception of it.

I certainly agree that the perception of time is governed by our mental equipment. This might be as a consequence of evolution. Has any work been done about the time perceptions of other lifeforms, particularly the higher mammals? I have no idea but I suspect that if it were possible to understand this we would find that no other animal has any real concept of time, at least in terms of past, present and future.

I have said before that I cannot see how time can exist independently of our perception of it. Memory, as you say, is our only window on the past and that is entirely dependent on our (subjective) intellectual make-up. The future does not exist as it has not yet occurred and there is no evidence that there is an instant which is neither past nor future. Even Einstein, whose theories have much to say about time, doubted that it really existed.

I had not thought about the proposition contained in your last paragraph but it makes sense. Epistemology (and to an extent formal logic) strike me as being the least satisfactory philosophical disciplines. I am not so sure that a study of the brain’s capabilities will yield much information about the nature of time.

Neuroscience might tell us a bit more about how memory works. We might also derive some sort of idea about why time is important to us as a species through anthropology and the study of evolutionary biology. But I am not sure that we can go much further than that.

Yes, the simple point is that unless someone is an immaterialist, they have to accept that the limits of perception and reason circumscribe what can be expressed.

I doubt that neuroscience can help much on the nature of time, but perhaps something of use on the perception of time and may be something (eventually) on the nature of identity, which I think must incorporate time and causality (what I was some time ago causes what I am now).

I certainly do hope that neuroscience will have a great deal to offer in our understanding of the nature perception, how we build up a picture of the external world and how memory works. Perhaps more will be revealed about what determines personality and how personality interacts with perception and memory.

In brief the hope is that Neuroscience will be able to provide objective evidence for issues for which such evidence is currently not available.

Martin:

I hope you are right about the progress of neuroscience but my fear is that identity and memory, which I think will prove to be a large chunk of how we view ourselves, will not yield to reductionism. Perhaps what makes us who we are is irreducible – in other words everything in the brain contributes something. I know that studies have been carried out on how a damaged brain affects personality but I am not sure of the results.

Another thing occurs to me. We are really a mulitplicity of people. Everybody who I have ever encountered has a different perception of me and that is reflected to a degree in who I am to myself. So (leaving the free will argument to one side) I say something that I can see has a negative effect on person A, so I amend my behaviour accordingly.

I can only ever be a distinctive personality at one instant in time (which does not exist) everything else is generalisation. I behave and feel differently now than I did before reading your post, than when I was eight years old, than yesterday afternoon before I learned the football results etc.

We often talk about basic personalities meaning, I suppose, those things that we cannot amend. Perhaps we must distinguish between genetic inheritance and learned behaviour but this also feels like a false distinction.

Causation is a tricky area – a minefield when one tries to nail it down. This might again be something we have developed as an intellectually useful tool – without a belief in causation, for example, there would be no morals and, possibly, no human race.

I think personality (if we think generally) and perception are inextricably linked but in what way precisely I am not sure. How I perceive the world must have a profound effect on how I feel, behave and appear to others.

It is certainly difficult to see how you could have identity without causation. and causation implies sequence.

…and sequence implies time.

A very quick question: when we speak of “time travel”, the possibilities are related to the speed at which we travel (hence Avdeyev, or thought experiments about futuristic twins, one of whom is an astronaut), right? In which case, aren’t we all ‘experiencing’ different times, given differing speeds, albeit at an absurdly miniscule level of difference? Or does it work according to the motion of the Earth? (To put it another way, where are the different things, going through different ‘times’, individuated?).

Pace travelling backwards in time, the great Richard Feynman said that he knew for a certainty that sub-atomic particles sometimes travelled backwards in time and that he could demonstrate this truth mathematically but that he didn’t truly ‘understand’ it. One of the great physicists, Planck or Bohr, said that if Quantum Mechanics hadn’t profoundly shocked you then you hadn’t understood it…

ChooChoo:

Time slows the faster one travels but only relative to a stationary observer. For the traveller time proceeds at its normal pace. Thus a clock travelling at speed will tick more slowly than one that is stationary, or travelling more slowly.The traveller also appears foreshortened in the direction of travel but this is not how the traveller feels.

mishari:

Feynman’s diagrams illustrating Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) show electrons moving backwards in time as they recoil from an emitted photon. But this leads to all sorts of philosophical questions about our ability to envisage the mathematics that describe the universe. What is metaphor and what real? Some say (many physicists included) that physics is metaphor all the way down.

It was Bohr who said that, ‘Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.’

mishari:

BTW you would be welcome to join us for our inaugural lunch next Tuesday – the details are in the chatroom.

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