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		<title>By: Biskie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool - not too long to wait then.</description>
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		<title>By: ChooChoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChooChoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@biskie - it&#039;s three weeks from when last season ended. I think, two weeks today it&#039;ll start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@biskie &#8211; it&#8217;s three weeks from when last season ended. I think, two weeks today it&#8217;ll start.</p>
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		<title>By: Biskie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I saw that bit. Do you remember when Daniels is watching TV at home and there is a truly awful American doing a posh English accent commenting on (I think) a dog show? Second series. I&#039;ve only seen the first two so far. 
  I&#039;d seen the actor who plays McNulty on TV being interviewed a few weeks back, until then I didn&#039;t know he was English. 
  Anyone know if when series three is on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I saw that bit. Do you remember when Daniels is watching TV at home and there is a truly awful American doing a posh English accent commenting on (I think) a dog show? Second series. I&#8217;ve only seen the first two so far.<br />
  I&#8217;d seen the actor who plays McNulty on TV being interviewed a few weeks back, until then I didn&#8217;t know he was English.<br />
  Anyone know if when series three is on?</p>
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		<title>By: gordy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Choo Choo As a former divisional president of my union (NUT) I like to pretend I am Sobotka - as delusions go it&#039;s quite a good one. One thing that Charlie Brooker got absolutely right is the way in which devotees envy those who have not seen it because they have got it all to come.
The dvds are a good way of watching them especially as they have subtitles and commentaries. On one episode where a detective mutters &quot;Oh sh*t&quot; over the corpse of a teenager the observation is made that in any other cop show this would indicate the cop&#039;s sadness or despair at a heartless world. In The Wire you know that it&#039;s said because it has made life difficult for Bunk as the child is a witness. It&#039;s one of those tiny little things that give the series that unmistakable ring of authenticity.

@Biskie
Have you got to the surreal bit where the English actor playing McNulty pretends to be English? I once had a friend whose dad was a &#039;master&#039; in a prep school and we sat through a production of Oliver where the prep school kids had to pretend to be poor kids imagining what it would be like to be posh kids. All very odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Choo Choo As a former divisional president of my union (NUT) I like to pretend I am Sobotka &#8211; as delusions go it&#8217;s quite a good one. One thing that Charlie Brooker got absolutely right is the way in which devotees envy those who have not seen it because they have got it all to come.<br />
The dvds are a good way of watching them especially as they have subtitles and commentaries. On one episode where a detective mutters &#8220;Oh sh*t&#8221; over the corpse of a teenager the observation is made that in any other cop show this would indicate the cop&#8217;s sadness or despair at a heartless world. In The Wire you know that it&#8217;s said because it has made life difficult for Bunk as the child is a witness. It&#8217;s one of those tiny little things that give the series that unmistakable ring of authenticity.</p>
<p>@Biskie<br />
Have you got to the surreal bit where the English actor playing McNulty pretends to be English? I once had a friend whose dad was a &#8216;master&#8217; in a prep school and we sat through a production of Oliver where the prep school kids had to pretend to be poor kids imagining what it would be like to be posh kids. All very odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Biskie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wire is ace. Having been away for a few days I have three lined up to watch, very happy to spend my Friday night with McNulty and co.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wire is ace. Having been away for a few days I have three lined up to watch, very happy to spend my Friday night with McNulty and co.</p>
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		<title>By: ChooChoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChooChoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True dat. 

I&#039;m recently converted and have all of the (probably irritating) devotional zeal of a recent convert. 

Have watched some of series 1 (and can testify to how you can&#039;t skip bits out) and have watched series 2 on BBC2 - last episode was on Wed night. 

I really wanted to - not hate it - but like it with reservations, so that I could distance myself from the adulation, be sophisticated blah blah blah. 

But, quite simply, it really is that good.  Series 2 is focussed on the stevedores of Baltimore and some of the subtexts (decline of production etc) are v interesting. The final ten minutes of the penultimate episode is as moving a piece of television as I can remember seeing. And the characters are fantastically drawn out. (All the Sobotkas are brilliant examples). Very few characters are un-really good or bad (maybe the lawyer, Levy, is an exception, Gordy, though worth it for that scene with Omar). I hunger to watch more! And again and again!

Basically, it poses a great threat to future chances of finding a nice girl, gainful employment, a pristine high street in london, etcetc.

By the way, the producer of The Wire&#039;s written two books from his journalism days: first was Homicide (which follows Baltimore&#039;s, er, homicide unit for a year). This is not, on paper, my kind of thing. But, egged on by a colleague, I relented. And basically put life on hold to finish it. Brilliantly absorbing and quite jarring for what it shows about &#039;targets culture&#039; when applied to, er, murder. 

The other is The Corner - which focusses on a few blocks of West Baltimore over the course of a year. It is co-authored (with a former policeman David Simon met doing Homicide) and is a little closer to what The Wire is about. Just started - but v good so far.

I&#039;m wary of treating Simon as some sort of guru or genius. But, came across him talking on youtube and he&#039;s very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNkL12QD68 
(with parts 2 and 3 linked in sidebar). 

One final thing: I find it interesting how often he refers to Greek tragedy. He means it substantively. There&#039;s definitely something to it. Looking back, that scene I mentioned above (which is on youtube but I don&#039;t want to ruin it by isolating it for anyone who&#039;s never watched it) is the culmination of a tragedy. But it also has a little resemblance to some conventions of Greek Tragedy (representations of death, sex, etc). 

Anyhow, like you Gordy, I&#039;ve become a shameless, brazen, fanatical evangelist. If I lived in Georgia, I&#039;d be a door-to-door Wire salesmen. I recently-ish changed second supervisor. Met with new one, who&#039;s great. And we were chatting. And it turns out he lived in Baltimore for not far off a decade. You seen The Wire?, he asked. We have a v good working relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True dat. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m recently converted and have all of the (probably irritating) devotional zeal of a recent convert. </p>
<p>Have watched some of series 1 (and can testify to how you can&#8217;t skip bits out) and have watched series 2 on BBC2 &#8211; last episode was on Wed night. </p>
<p>I really wanted to &#8211; not hate it &#8211; but like it with reservations, so that I could distance myself from the adulation, be sophisticated blah blah blah. </p>
<p>But, quite simply, it really is that good.  Series 2 is focussed on the stevedores of Baltimore and some of the subtexts (decline of production etc) are v interesting. The final ten minutes of the penultimate episode is as moving a piece of television as I can remember seeing. And the characters are fantastically drawn out. (All the Sobotkas are brilliant examples). Very few characters are un-really good or bad (maybe the lawyer, Levy, is an exception, Gordy, though worth it for that scene with Omar). I hunger to watch more! And again and again!</p>
<p>Basically, it poses a great threat to future chances of finding a nice girl, gainful employment, a pristine high street in london, etcetc.</p>
<p>By the way, the producer of The Wire&#8217;s written two books from his journalism days: first was Homicide (which follows Baltimore&#8217;s, er, homicide unit for a year). This is not, on paper, my kind of thing. But, egged on by a colleague, I relented. And basically put life on hold to finish it. Brilliantly absorbing and quite jarring for what it shows about &#8216;targets culture&#8217; when applied to, er, murder. </p>
<p>The other is The Corner &#8211; which focusses on a few blocks of West Baltimore over the course of a year. It is co-authored (with a former policeman David Simon met doing Homicide) and is a little closer to what The Wire is about. Just started &#8211; but v good so far.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wary of treating Simon as some sort of guru or genius. But, came across him talking on youtube and he&#8217;s very interesting: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNkL12QD68" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNkL12QD68</a><br />
(with parts 2 and 3 linked in sidebar). </p>
<p>One final thing: I find it interesting how often he refers to Greek tragedy. He means it substantively. There&#8217;s definitely something to it. Looking back, that scene I mentioned above (which is on youtube but I don&#8217;t want to ruin it by isolating it for anyone who&#8217;s never watched it) is the culmination of a tragedy. But it also has a little resemblance to some conventions of Greek Tragedy (representations of death, sex, etc). </p>
<p>Anyhow, like you Gordy, I&#8217;ve become a shameless, brazen, fanatical evangelist. If I lived in Georgia, I&#8217;d be a door-to-door Wire salesmen. I recently-ish changed second supervisor. Met with new one, who&#8217;s great. And we were chatting. And it turns out he lived in Baltimore for not far off a decade. You seen The Wire?, he asked. We have a v good working relationship.</p>
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